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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2004, 02:50:34 PM » |
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I'm a bit amazed....
He's pleading not guilty, they found the body, they have his brother on record as saying he (Mark)confessed that he did it... dunno...maybe he really IS a looney tune and dosen't think he murdered her at all....I don't exactly know what to think of this except I don't think its going to be too hard for the Pros to prove. Unlike the Peterson case there is all kinds of evidence (though TH and hedidits will say otherwise)
I am glad in this case the families are sticking close to each other to work through this tragedy.
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I THINK HE WAS SANE WHEN HE KILLED HER, BUT LOST IT WHEN HE REALIZED WHAT HE HAD DONE, HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE INSANE TO RUN AROUND NAKED IN A MOTEL PARKING LOT. I KNOW I READ THAT LORI'S MOTHER ORIGINALLY WAS HAPPY THAT HE CONFESSED WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO HER DAUGHTER AND IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE SHE HAD FORGIVEN HIM TO A POINT. IT IS NICE TO SEE THAT THE TWO FAMILIES DIDN'T DIVIDE OVER IT LIKE SCOTT'S AND LACI'S. ALL THAT DOES IS MAKE EVERYTHING WORSE. VINDICTIVENESS NEVER SOLVES ANYTHING. I FELL SORRY FOR LORI'S MOTHER. EVEN THOUGH LORI WAS ADOPTED, LORI'S MOTHER COULDN'T HAVE LOVED HER MORE IF SHE WERE HER OWN. Mod Edit: Fix Quote |
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2004, 03:08:35 PM » |
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Pleading innocent.... hummm.... just another wasted proceeding in an already drained system. Does he all of a sudden feel as if he is innocent? Or does he want to stall, waste taxpayers money, and cause even more pain for his family and Lori's family? What a jerk....
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2004, 06:39:56 PM » |
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Well, he's been charged with 1st degree premeditated murder. He wasn't given an option to plea bargain for a lesser charge -- at least the SLPD said no plea negotiations have gone on. If he doesn't feel like he's guilty of 1st degree, then yes, he needs to plead innocent, and then his attorney can argue the premeditation part. Or, if the attorney feels there is a good case for diminished capacity, he can argue that.
Remember, even Mark Hacking deserves an aggressive defense, and the State of Utah is obligated to prove their charges beyond reasonable doubt. I have reasonable doubt on 1st degree just from his behavior afterwards.
I think at most it's second degree. I don't think he ever harbored any thought of hurting her until late that night. I assume they got into an argument about his lies, and he felt trapped. As the night wore on, I think he might have been very anxious about the next day, and in a frenzy decided he had to kill her. I think he knew he was killing her, I don't think he was insane at the time. But I don't believe he deliberated about it, just acted spontaneously on the thought. Then I think he went into at least a temporary insanity when he realized what he had done. Guilt has been known to drive people insane.
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2004, 06:47:46 PM » |
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Do you think he panicked because he was moving the next day to no where and his deception was going to come to light?
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2004, 07:16:15 PM » |
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Do you think he panicked because he was moving the next day to no where and his deception was going to come to light?
yes. I've experienced panic attacks. You feel so cornered and all your thoughts are on how to escape. He may have seen killing her as his only escape. |
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2004, 07:40:22 PM » |
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Does fear trigger them?
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2004, 04:20:27 PM » |
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The potential for the heat of the moment kill fizzled when he said she went to bed.... which allows for sufficient cooling off. As for whether he deserves 1st, I believe he does considering he was the one that informed everyone that she was pregnant. It really is all about his selfishness.... his lies and his deciding to take her life and her baby's life. If it were not for her family being as gracious as they are his @ss would be facing DEATH, hence the number one reason to plead guilty to spare his life..... he just happens to be lucky that they are not pushing for that penalty and he should not look a gift horse in the mouth. Lori's broth is right about this one.... he should BE A MAN and EARN up to his MISTAKES and spare the family additional PAIN and SUFFERING!
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2004, 02:43:12 AM » |
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The potential for the heat of the moment kill fizzled when he said she went to bed.... which allows for sufficient cooling off. As for whether he deserves 1st, I believe he does considering he was the one that informed everyone that she was pregnant. It really is all about his selfishness.... his lies and his deciding to take her life and her baby's life. If it were not for her family being as gracious as they are his @ss would be facing DEATH, hence the number one reason to plead guilty to spare his life..... he just happens to be lucky that they are not pushing for that penalty and he should not look a gift horse in the mouth. Lori's broth is right about this one.... he should BE A MAN and EARN up to his MISTAKES and spare the family additional PAIN and SUFFERING!
I honestly believe Ms. Soares loves Mark... And I agree, he should be a man about it... Take life in prison.... ttrum And be grateful your not getting the DP... |
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2004, 03:09:46 AM » |
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I honestly believe Ms. Soares loves Mark...
And I agree, he should be a man about it...
Take life in prison.... ttrum
And be grateful your not getting the DP...
She must love him . She must have a very forgiving heart. Lori had so much going for her, while Mark seems to have not. I first thought he must have lost it for a second, but the more I think about it, some guys get so intimidated by strong women. For him to be lying about his sucess to everyone says he definitly has issues. I believe they had a fight about medical school (and all the other lies). She went to bed. He stewed over it a while. In a fit of rage, he killed her because she was everything he was not. In his mind, she rubbed his face in it every day. In HIS mind--not reality I havent seen any evidence but the news, so I am just trying to piece motive from that (for what that is worth) |
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2004, 03:12:57 AM » |
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I should clarify: i thought he lost it= didnt want his secrets out and reacted
in the end, i think it was about not feeling so small.
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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2004, 11:17:12 PM » |
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The potential for the heat of the moment kill fizzled when he said she went to bed.... which allows for sufficient cooling off. As for whether he deserves 1st, I believe he does considering he was the one that informed everyone that she was pregnant. It really is all about his selfishness.... his lies and his deciding to take her life and her baby's life. If it were not for her family being as gracious as they are his @ss would be facing DEATH, hence the number one reason to plead guilty to spare his life..... he just happens to be lucky that they are not pushing for that penalty and he should not look a gift horse in the mouth. Lori's broth is right about this one.... he should BE A MAN and EARN up to his MISTAKES and spare the family additional PAIN and SUFFERING! I agree completely with this post. The guy should take responsibilty for once. I guess he figures why start now?! I mean really, all he is doing is prolonging the agony for both he & Lori's families. ANOTHER selfish act by a cowardly man, IMO. Sad. |
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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2004, 08:12:48 PM » |
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I have to agree with you guys. Had he lost it then he wouldn't have continued with the lies and made up the story he did. If you had truely gone nuts then you wouldn't do all the things he did. I never heard of someone who lost it making up the story, driving the victims car to the scene of the alibi, buying a new mattress, disposing of evidence in 3 different places, and the list goes on and on. He probably did it cause the gig was up and he knew it was only a matter of time before the found out the whole truth. He even probably had thought out the whole insanity thing before he went in that room and killed her. Makes you wonder though what if he had never confessed? I wonder if they would have had enough evidence to charge him. It's like he's trying to make himself out to be the victim here and not Lori. ttrum I think if you are capable of killing someone then you are nuts, unless it's in self defense, but you're not insane. He knew what he was doing all along. Too bad, for him,he wasn't as smart as he thought he was.
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2004, 05:40:38 AM » |
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I agree totally with you. If you are insane then fine but don't become sane long enough to set the stage and then become insane again. Geez
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